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I came up with the theory yesterdays that Donna is going to be the character that saves the day in the season finale by providing what is needed (or alternatively, being what is needed). I’ve also been running with the idea for some time that Donna is somehow doomed, just because it would nicely fit with the parallels between her and the Doctor and reading between the lines of what various people such as RTD have been saying).
Seems that the consensus idea is that Turn Left (the Doctor-lite) is set in an alternative future in which the Doctor is dead. But what if Turn Left is actually an alternative future in which Donna never found the Doctor? Basically, my idea is that Donna is some how pivotal in preventing a catastrophe, and while neither the Doctor nor Donna knows this – Rose does.
Rose’s presence in Partners in Crime is her ensuring they meet and that ominous look about her is because she knows that by ensuring Donna meets the Doctor she’s ensuring the whatever awful thing is going to happen to Donna actually happens – which is a horrible thing for a person to have to do. Rose is doing this from her side of the rift. If you watch the OMG!Rose scene, her footsteps make an echoing sound out of place with the crime scene. She’s quite possibly a projection coming through the rift like the Doctor was in Bad Wolf Bay.
I also think there’s going to be some mixing about time stuff going on and I predict the Rose’s chronology in season four is actually going backwards when compared to Donna’s (i.e. for Rose, the season finale happens before the Doctor-lite, and the Doctor-lite takes place before Partners in Crime). And this happens because it’s Donna in the season finale that sends Rose on this mission. Basically, Rose is charged by Donna to ensure Donna’s future. Donna knows about her future and that Rose must be the one because Rose told her. The two are linked and each holds the other’s future in her hands.
And it is because of this future that Rose cannot stay with the Doctor. There is something bigger than both him and her at work, and something bigger than Donna, and I think (based on casting spoilers) it’s been building since The Christmas Invasion.
Seems that the consensus idea is that Turn Left (the Doctor-lite) is set in an alternative future in which the Doctor is dead. But what if Turn Left is actually an alternative future in which Donna never found the Doctor? Basically, my idea is that Donna is some how pivotal in preventing a catastrophe, and while neither the Doctor nor Donna knows this – Rose does.
Rose’s presence in Partners in Crime is her ensuring they meet and that ominous look about her is because she knows that by ensuring Donna meets the Doctor she’s ensuring the whatever awful thing is going to happen to Donna actually happens – which is a horrible thing for a person to have to do. Rose is doing this from her side of the rift. If you watch the OMG!Rose scene, her footsteps make an echoing sound out of place with the crime scene. She’s quite possibly a projection coming through the rift like the Doctor was in Bad Wolf Bay.
I also think there’s going to be some mixing about time stuff going on and I predict the Rose’s chronology in season four is actually going backwards when compared to Donna’s (i.e. for Rose, the season finale happens before the Doctor-lite, and the Doctor-lite takes place before Partners in Crime). And this happens because it’s Donna in the season finale that sends Rose on this mission. Basically, Rose is charged by Donna to ensure Donna’s future. Donna knows about her future and that Rose must be the one because Rose told her. The two are linked and each holds the other’s future in her hands.
And it is because of this future that Rose cannot stay with the Doctor. There is something bigger than both him and her at work, and something bigger than Donna, and I think (based on casting spoilers) it’s been building since The Christmas Invasion.
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Date: 2008-04-06 09:08 pm (UTC)I think something bad is happening and Rose is aware of it. Someone has said (was it Radio Times) that Rose's world is collapsing so she's trying to save herself and everyone else. Obviously, Donna is somehow tied to that along with the Big Bad. Based on what I've read about "Turn Left", it definitely sounds like a big "What If". Whether it's that or the Doctor truly taken out of time, we'll find out, but obviously Donna IS the focal point of the story.
I am pretty certain that in the end, Rose will go back to her world and stay there - the universes will once again be saved and needed to be kept seperate. But not until everything else is resolved. And a lot of people (Jack, Martha, Sarah Jane, Jackie, Mickey, Francine, Wilf, possibly Team Torchwood, possibly the SJS kids) will be needed to help.
And yes, all of this has been building since "Christmas Invasion" and beyond, maybe even since "Parting of the ways". (I suspect Rose might have some vestiges of the TARDIS in her which might account for her ability to come through the Rift) It's going to be interesting.
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Date: 2008-04-06 09:22 pm (UTC)If it is the Rift, I'm kind of thinking that maybe the Rift not closing has something to do with Donna. She did turn up in Doomsday just as the rift was closing, and there was all sort of odd stuff already happening with her, the Huon particles and the heart of the TARDIS - something could have gone very wrong.
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Date: 2008-04-06 09:39 pm (UTC)HellmouthCardiff Rift also has something to with this which would also explain why Jack is involved (other than of course if he knew the Doctor was on Earth doing stuff, he'd be there in a heartbeat). But yeah -- it sounds like stuff is happening there. Actually, in the TW episode 'Adrift', there was a whole thing about how the Cardiff Rift actually worked both ways, not just spitting stuff out -- which might definitely be connected.I had forgotten about the timing of TRB and Doomsday. Damn. It's one of those things where I want it all to connect and yet I don't -- because of the probability factor. Unless Donna is actually something/someone more than we thought -- i.e. a locus for weird phenomena. (I know there's a better word for it from some other sf/fantasy book/film/show but my brain is soggy today). I know Lance dosed her with the Huon particles but maybe there's something more to that than we realise.
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Date: 2008-04-06 10:18 pm (UTC)I don't think the Cardiff rift is going to be involved though - mainly because theres going to be a third series of Torchwood and I think they want to keep the Doctor Who rift separate from the Torchwood rift.
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Date: 2008-04-06 09:39 pm (UTC)Of course, I may just be trying to find some justification for a Helen Reynor two-parter.
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Date: 2008-04-06 10:13 pm (UTC)Though, I think that Martha's the justification for the Helen Reynor two parter. The Doctor has some groveling to do, and it's going to take two episodes to get through it all.
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