Thinky Stuff
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meddowHaving re-watched The Stolen Earth, I've been thinking about what could potentially come of everything for next week.
I'm not even going to go there with the regeneration. I just don't have anything besides fake-out. As for the other stuff we have prophecies and other plot strands:
1. "He is coming, the threefold man." The Doctor, obviously. But threefold? There has been an emphasis on three this season. In Fires of Pompeii, Planet of the Ood and Forrest of the Dead, the same three were pictured together, the Doctor, Donna and the TARDIS. The three essential parts of the Doctor's success, himself, the TARDIS and his companion.
2. The crucible and the alignment of planets to form an engine. Crucible can mean a point where powerful forces converge. The Daleks are using the Medusa Cascade and the alignment of planets to gather immense universal forces of space and time to probably exterminate every other living thing in the universe.
3. "You are something new." Not a Time Lords then. The Time Lords are an ancient race. Ancient as in not new. Neither is the Bad Wolf new, for that matter. Every species and being covered by the show are not new, which would make choosing one from the bunch and decided Donna is/shall become that is a futile exercise.
4. The heartbeat. Call me crazy, but was the fact that the reaction to Davros' heart fell to Donna meant to signify something? (Other than Donna is Davros, because that would be absolutely ridiculous.)
5. That key of Martha's is my vote for the big shiny reset (if there is going to be one). If it was a snapshot of the Earth taken right before the Daleks invaded, it could potentially restore everything.
6. "Oh, you know nothing of any human. And that will be your downfall." Harriet hasn't got the gift of prophecy, but she'll most certainly be proven right. Why? Because this isn't the real world, this is fiction and every writer worth their merit would use and opportunity like Harriet Jones's freaking awesome last words to do some foreshadowing.
7. "Everlasting death for the most faithful Companion." Seems to me to mean what is says on the can. Although 'everlasting' seems to imply is a bit more permanent than everyday death, so something beyond the standard death. Because apparently there are degrees of dead.
Anyway…
Seems to me that what we have next week are have are forces that seem to be capable of tearing the universe and all other universes apart. We have a motley bunch of earth defenders, the most important of which is an ordinary woman with prophecy of greatness surrounding her, but also eternal death and all signs are pointing to an actual change in species. We also have the downfall of Daleks being a human.
Now I'm just ruminating here, but what if the forces the Daleks are trying to collect are unleashed, and they need to be contained? So Donna steps up and does it and becomes something new. So Donna + forces of the Cascade = something new. It's pretty much a rehash of the Bad Wolf though. Except maybe it actually kills her.
More interestingly, what if she steps up and does it because she knows she has to do it. If the forces the Daleks are collecting are time, then surely they will have some kind of temporal aftershocks which would become more noticeable as they move towards the point, which is why those with prophecy can detect something about Donna, and Donna's starting to realise it herself. But she has to believe it about herself before she acts.
The emphasis is on heartbeats, so I wouldn't be surprised if the thing that saves the day is the sacrifice of a human heart, and it's cheesy enough for RTD to want to do it.
This is completely out there and only tangentially related, but I'd be tragic if Donna gained all the powers of whatever, became an eternal being, but lost all emotions in the process. Basically everything that made her human and Donna. Well, one of the themes of the series has been that godlike powers + emotions are not a good thing because emotions can drive a person to make mistakes. You can have all the good intentions in the world, like the Doctor, but it still causes people to suffer and often you'll just make the situation worse. The only good god would be an emotionless god and one who stays out of the picture.
You know, I think I'm advocating for the Time Lord stance on time travel. Weird. Anyway, probably not going to happen. Put that in the 'if I were writing Doctor Who pile.'
Gah. I don't know. I want it to be next week now.
I'm not even going to go there with the regeneration. I just don't have anything besides fake-out. As for the other stuff we have prophecies and other plot strands:
1. "He is coming, the threefold man." The Doctor, obviously. But threefold? There has been an emphasis on three this season. In Fires of Pompeii, Planet of the Ood and Forrest of the Dead, the same three were pictured together, the Doctor, Donna and the TARDIS. The three essential parts of the Doctor's success, himself, the TARDIS and his companion.
2. The crucible and the alignment of planets to form an engine. Crucible can mean a point where powerful forces converge. The Daleks are using the Medusa Cascade and the alignment of planets to gather immense universal forces of space and time to probably exterminate every other living thing in the universe.
3. "You are something new." Not a Time Lords then. The Time Lords are an ancient race. Ancient as in not new. Neither is the Bad Wolf new, for that matter. Every species and being covered by the show are not new, which would make choosing one from the bunch and decided Donna is/shall become that is a futile exercise.
4. The heartbeat. Call me crazy, but was the fact that the reaction to Davros' heart fell to Donna meant to signify something? (Other than Donna is Davros, because that would be absolutely ridiculous.)
5. That key of Martha's is my vote for the big shiny reset (if there is going to be one). If it was a snapshot of the Earth taken right before the Daleks invaded, it could potentially restore everything.
6. "Oh, you know nothing of any human. And that will be your downfall." Harriet hasn't got the gift of prophecy, but she'll most certainly be proven right. Why? Because this isn't the real world, this is fiction and every writer worth their merit would use and opportunity like Harriet Jones's freaking awesome last words to do some foreshadowing.
7. "Everlasting death for the most faithful Companion." Seems to me to mean what is says on the can. Although 'everlasting' seems to imply is a bit more permanent than everyday death, so something beyond the standard death. Because apparently there are degrees of dead.
Anyway…
Seems to me that what we have next week are have are forces that seem to be capable of tearing the universe and all other universes apart. We have a motley bunch of earth defenders, the most important of which is an ordinary woman with prophecy of greatness surrounding her, but also eternal death and all signs are pointing to an actual change in species. We also have the downfall of Daleks being a human.
Now I'm just ruminating here, but what if the forces the Daleks are trying to collect are unleashed, and they need to be contained? So Donna steps up and does it and becomes something new. So Donna + forces of the Cascade = something new. It's pretty much a rehash of the Bad Wolf though. Except maybe it actually kills her.
More interestingly, what if she steps up and does it because she knows she has to do it. If the forces the Daleks are collecting are time, then surely they will have some kind of temporal aftershocks which would become more noticeable as they move towards the point, which is why those with prophecy can detect something about Donna, and Donna's starting to realise it herself. But she has to believe it about herself before she acts.
The emphasis is on heartbeats, so I wouldn't be surprised if the thing that saves the day is the sacrifice of a human heart, and it's cheesy enough for RTD to want to do it.
This is completely out there and only tangentially related, but I'd be tragic if Donna gained all the powers of whatever, became an eternal being, but lost all emotions in the process. Basically everything that made her human and Donna. Well, one of the themes of the series has been that godlike powers + emotions are not a good thing because emotions can drive a person to make mistakes. You can have all the good intentions in the world, like the Doctor, but it still causes people to suffer and often you'll just make the situation worse. The only good god would be an emotionless god and one who stays out of the picture.
You know, I think I'm advocating for the Time Lord stance on time travel. Weird. Anyway, probably not going to happen. Put that in the 'if I were writing Doctor Who pile.'
Gah. I don't know. I want it to be next week now.
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Date: 2008-06-29 01:32 pm (UTC)(1) A Potterverse-style scenario: "Stuff what the prophecies say!"
(2) The "most faithful companion" is actually referring to the TARDIS.
(3) Species conversion, maybe even Time Lord watchiness, which replaces Donna (or better, Rose, but let's assume Donna here) with something else. (Catherine Tate for Eleven! :D)
(4) Zombiefication as with Owen in Torchwood, or even as with River Song.
(5) Doing whatever is necessary to finish off the Daleks means that the person doing it will be wiped from time.
As an aside, we now have a setup for the Time Lords to be brought back if it is in fact possible to get back into the Time War ... it would be hilarious if at the end of it all we were left with the Eighth Doctor. That would confound the predictions. :)
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Date: 2008-06-30 03:24 am (UTC)I'm thinking (1) a Potterverse type of situation is the most likely of the bunch. Personally, I find prophecies actually being fulfilled to be more satisfactory, but there's kids to think of (although the kids didn't stop them from having Donna throw herself in front of a truck).