It's Murray Time!
Feb. 10th, 2010 09:21 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
I wanted to contribute to
halfamoon and decided I would celebrate Nicola Murray, lead character and Secretary of State for the Department of Social Affairs and Citizenship in the third series of The Thick of It. I'm not sure how well known it is, but The Thick of It changed last year from a show with a male lead, to a show with a female lead, and really, how often does that happen? That in itself is pretty awesome and that way, she is actually quite ground breaking.
But, really, what I love most about her in terms of being an awesome female character is that she is not the singular and not-so-funny female island of competency in a world of screwed up and hilarious males. No, Nicola is just a screwed up, hilarious and incompetent as all the men in The Thick of It. That sounds contradictory, but the above trope seems to be the norm in comedy these days and I think it's fantastic when women get to be funny.































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But, really, what I love most about her in terms of being an awesome female character is that she is not the singular and not-so-funny female island of competency in a world of screwed up and hilarious males. No, Nicola is just a screwed up, hilarious and incompetent as all the men in The Thick of It. That sounds contradictory, but the above trope seems to be the norm in comedy these days and I think it's fantastic when women get to be funny.































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Date: 2010-02-09 08:50 pm (UTC)I agree with everything you said about Nicola and I love the quotes you chose.
I love Nicola and Rebecca Front so much!
(Oh, by the way, the link you put in TTOI comm doesn't seem to work. I had to come to this comm directly to see this. Or rather I went to that comm and then linked into your lj!)
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Date: 2010-02-09 09:06 pm (UTC)I love her so much as well, and Rebecca Front who's back catalogue of work I'm working my way through at the moment. She's fantastic. I can't believe I hadn't come across her before she showed up on TTOI.
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Date: 2010-02-09 09:13 pm (UTC)Doesn't really compare to yours in awesomeness but I recently was sick and did this massive picspam (http://arathesane.livejournal.com/612147.html) when I began to feel better. Toward the end of it there are a lot of caps of Peter and Rebecca. I love both of their faces! Their expressions are always so brilliant.
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Date: 2010-02-09 10:01 pm (UTC)I love the pictures you've got of those two (and the activate Scottish Ninja's one make me crack up laughing). I must know - where are those first few pictures of Rebecca Front from?
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Date: 2010-02-10 12:03 am (UTC)Heh, that Scottish Ninja one is my personal favorite of the macros I've made. Every time I look at it, I can't help but smile!;)
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Date: 2010-02-09 09:14 pm (UTC)Anyway, I'm really happy that someone did something for Nicola for
And it's always hard to explain WHY I love her so much -- 'cause so many of the other women I'm fannish about are amazingly competent and down-right scary. And then there's Nicola Murray -- the bumbling cabinet minister. But I love that she gets in a male dominated arena and keeps fighting and swearing with the big boys. And while so many of the characters seem to be so focused on their OWN careers that she in 3x04 during her breakdown in Malcolm's office is worried that she's not helping OTHER PEOPLE. <3
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Date: 2010-02-09 09:31 pm (UTC)I actually struggled with picking Nicola for
But as you say, you've got to love her drive and that even though she has to fight to do anything and regularly is humiliated and taunted in the media, she keeps going. And within the context of the show, she shines as being rather selfless.
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Date: 2010-02-10 12:07 am (UTC)I mean, I adore Tina Fey and Liz Lemon but sometimes I hate how often Liz rags on herself. Jack builds her up more than she does herself. And while I love their relationship(and the show overall) that can be problematic. I wish that so much of the humor wasn't about laughing at Liz.
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Date: 2010-02-09 09:14 pm (UTC)I love your point about women being allowed to be funny.
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Date: 2010-02-09 09:38 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-09 09:24 pm (UTC)I'm definitely bookmarking this so I can come back to it whenever I need cheering up. Thanks!
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Date: 2010-02-09 10:16 pm (UTC)And 'conventionally attractive' does not, of course, mean 'I do not have a massive crush on' (see: Alexander McQueen, PETER CAPALDI ♥, etc.)
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Date: 2010-02-09 10:21 pm (UTC)"Look, we're so real! Yeah, we don't have any women over the age of 40 and they're all tiny and look like supermodels, but we're so real" ;)
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Date: 2010-02-09 10:56 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-02-09 11:33 pm (UTC)Nicola's so AWESOME. And so's Rebecca Front. Funny women FTW!
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Date: 2010-02-10 12:07 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-10 12:12 am (UTC)"You know, it was a screw-up. But I gotta say, I love the way he did it full speed, bam. Like there's a Sam Seaborn-shaped hole in the wall."
And I think that's why I love Nicola, like, in front of her there's this giant wall made of her own inexperience, and her total lack of power, and the way the system is constantly working against her. But she's just going to keep running into the goddamn wall, because that is literally the only thing there is to do besides going and lying down in the street. Which is what I would have done, if I were her, like a million times over by now.
Plus, she'll do what Malcolm says, but she'll also tell him exactly how much he (his plan, the entire political system) can go fuck themselves. Which is her wringing some shreds of agency out of her own powerlessness, which is totally awesome.
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Date: 2010-02-10 12:37 am (UTC)And that's a really good point about the powerless thing. Unlike other women in positions of power in things I've watched, Nicola's 'power' is really just a lie, so she only do so much, and it's the very act of trying that makes her admirable. I love how after the disaster of a policy launch in 3x06, she's right back at it with another policy launch at the beginning of 3x07.
And I love that Sam quote XD
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Date: 2010-02-10 03:14 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-02-10 09:34 am (UTC)And yes, I love everything you say about Nicola's character. As much as I love for a female character to kick arse, I like her inexperience and her foibles. How deep down, she wants to make changes and realises that she has to play the power game, but really doesn't like the taste of it. She and Malcolm are fantastic to watch!
This was awesome!
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Date: 2010-02-10 06:41 pm (UTC)Yes, I really like that about Nicola too, that she's doesn't really like mechanics of politics at all, but unlike some of the other characters who don't like it, seems to stick with it to attempt to do some good, rather than just to stay in power. Nicola and Malcolm are my favourite on screen duo at the moment.
And thank you :)
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Date: 2010-02-10 07:01 pm (UTC)I really love that Nicola doesn't attempt to be nicer than the guys. One thing I noticed when doing the quotes is that Nicola really holds her own with the swearing. With Jamie no longer on the show, I think it's between her and Ollie as to who is the second most foul-mouthed character.
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Date: 2010-02-10 07:35 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-02-11 12:16 am (UTC)Also: your header is the Best. Thing. Ever.
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Date: 2010-02-11 04:59 am (UTC)Thanks! I'm really proud of that header and you're the first person to compliment it.
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Date: 2010-02-17 08:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-25 05:05 am (UTC)I have mad love for Nicola and for her really earnest desire to make things better. But, like you said, I love that she gets to screw up and be funny and swear with the big boys.
Thanks for this!! :D